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Musnad Ahmad 16970

Ghudayf b. al-Harith

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حَدَّثَنَا سُرَيْجُ بْنُ النُّعْمَانِ قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا بَقِيَّةُ عَنْ أَبِي بَكْرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللهِ عَنْ حَبِيبِ بْنِ عُبَيْدٍ الرَّحَبِيِّ عَنْ غُضَيْفِ بْنِ الْحَارِثِ الثُّمَالِيِّ قَالَ

بَعَثَ إِلَيَّ عَبْدُ الْمَلِكِ بْنُ مَرْوَانَ فَقَالَ: يَا أَبَا أَسْمَاءَ، إِنَّا قَدْ جَمَعْنَا النَّاسَ عَلَى أَمْرَيْنِ. قَالَ: وَمَا هُمَا ؟ قَالَ: رَفْعُ الْأَيْدِي عَلَى الْمَنَابِرِ يَوْمَ الْجُمُعَةِ، وَالْقَصَصُ بَعْدَ الصُّبْحِ وَالْعَصْرِ. فَقَالَ: أَمَا إِنَّهُمَا أَمْثَلُ بِدْعَتِكُمْ عِنْدِي، وَلَسْتُ مُجِيبَكَ إِلَى شَيْءٍ مِنْهُمَا. قَالَ: لِمَ ؟ قَالَ: لِأَنَّ النَّبِيَّ ﷺ قَالَ: مَا أَحْدَثَ قَوْمٌ بِدْعَةً إِلَّا رُفِعَ مِثْلُهَا مِنَ السُّنَّةِ، فَتَمَسُّكٌ بِسُنَّةٍ خَيْرٌ مِنْ إِحْدَاثِ بِدْعَةٍ

Translation

Chain of narrators
  1. Surayj b. al-Nuʿmān
  2. Baqiyyah
  3. Abū Bakr b. ʿAbdullāh
  4. Ḥabīb b. ʿUbayd al-Raḥabī
  5. Ghuḍayf b. al-Ḥārith al-Thumālī

✧ Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan sent for me and said, "O Abu Asma, we have united the people on two matters." I asked, "What are they?" He replied, "Raising hands on the pulpits during the Friday sermon and telling stories after the Fajr and Asr prayers." I said, "Indeed, these are the most tolerable of your innovations in my view, but I will not comply with either of them." He asked, "Why not?" I said, "Because the Prophet ﷺ said, 'Whenever people introduce an innovation, its equivalent is removed from the Sunnah. Holding onto a Sunnah is better than introducing an innovation.'"

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  • Abū al-Ḥasan Nur al-Dīn ʿAlī b. Abi Bakr al-Haythamī

    وفيه أبو بكر بن عبد الله بن أبي مريم وهو منكر الحديث

    machine translationIn it is Abū Bakr b. ʿAbdillāh b. Abī Maryam, and he is rejected in hadith (munkar al-ḥadīth).

    in مسند أحمد, p. 17175
  • Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī

    سند جيد

    machine translationA good (jayyid) chain.

    in مسند أحمد, p. 17175

Same hadith, other wordings

  • Misykatul Mashabih 187وَعَن غُضَيْف بن الْحَارِث الثمالِي قَالَ: قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ: (مَا أَحْدَثَ قَوْمٌ بِدْعَةً إِلَّا رُفِعَ مِثْلُهَا مِنَ السُّنَّةِ فَتَمَسُّكٌ بِسُنَّةٍ خَيْرٌ مِنْ إِحْدَاث بِدعَة) رَوَاهُ أَحْمد

Narrators

  1. His status as a Companion is disputed (mukhtalaf fī ṣuḥbatihi)d. 60-odd AH
    غُضَيْفُ بْنُ الْحَارِثِمختلف في صحبته
    عن
  2. trustworthy (thiqah)d. between 111 and 120 AH
    حَبِيبِ بْنِ عُبَيْدٍ الرَّحَبِيِّثقة
    عن
  3. Weak (ḍaʿīf); his house had been robbed, and he became confused (ikhtalaṭa).d. 156 AH
    أَبِي بَكْرِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللهِضعيف ، وكان قد سرق بيته ، فاختلط
    عن
  4. truthful (ṣadūq), frequently practises concealment (tadlīs) from weak narratorsd. Ibn Saʿd said, and more than one: died (197) AH, Isḥāq b. Ibrāhīm b. al-ʿAlāʾ said: 198 AH; Abū Sulaymān b. Zabr said: 199 AH; Ibn Ḥibbān said: 190 AH
    بَقِيَّةُصدوق ، كثير التدليس عن الضعفاء
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  5. trustworthy (thiqah), makes occasional mistakes (yahimu qalīlan)d. 217 AH or 229 AH
    سُرَيْجُ بْنُ النُّعْمَانِثقة يهم قليلا
    حدثنا
  6. Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
    أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com

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Commentaries

Mirqāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mullā ʿAlī Qārī)
Mirʿāt al-Mafātīḥ (al-Mubārakfūrī)
Lamaʿāt al-Tanqīḥ (ʿAbd al-Ḥaqq al-Dihlawī)

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