Musnad Ahmad 1207
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حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ أَخْبَرَنَا مَعْمَرٌ عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ زَيْدٍ عَنِ الْحَسَنِ عَنْ قَيْسِ بْنِ عُبَادٍ قَالَ
كُنَّا مَعَ عَلِيٍّ، فَكَانَ إِذَا شَهِدَ مَشْهَدًا، أَوْ أَشْرَفَ عَلَى أَكَمَةٍ، أَوْ هَبَطَ وَادِيًا قَالَ: سُبْحَانَ اللهِ صَدَقَ اللهُ وَرَسُولُهُ، فَقُلْتُ لِرَجُلٍ مِنْ بَنِي يَشْكُرَ: انْطَلِقْ بِنَا إِلَى أَمِيرِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ حَتَّى نَسْأَلَهُ عَنْ قَوْلِهِ صَدَقَ اللهُ وَرَسُولُهُ، قَالَ: فَانْطَلَقْنَا إِلَيْهِ، فَقُلْنَا: يَا أَمِيرَ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ، رَأَيْنَاكَ إِذَا شَهِدْتَ مَشْهَدًا، أَوْ هَبَطْتَ وَادِيًا، أَوْ أَشْرَفْتَ عَلَى أَكَمَةٍ، قُلْتَ: صَدَقَ اللهُ وَرَسُولُهُ، فَهَلْ عَهِدَ رَسُولُ اللهِ إِلَيْكَ شَيْئًا فِي ذَلِكَ، قَالَ: فَأَعْرَضَ عَنَّا، وَأَلْحَحْنَا عَلَيْهِ، فَلَمَّا رَأَى ذَلِكَ قَالَ: وَاللهِ مَا عَهِدَ إِلَيَّ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ عَهْدًا إِلَّا شَيْئًا عَهِدَهُ إِلَى النَّاسِ، وَلَكِنَّ النَّاسَ وَقَعُوا عَلَى عُثْمَانَ، فَقَتَلُوهُ، فَكَانَ غَيْرِي فِيهِ أَسْوَأَ حَالًا وَفِعْلًا مِنِّي، ثُمَّ إِنِّي رَأَيْتُ أَنِّي أَحَقُّهُمْ بِهَذَا الْأَمْرِ، فَوَثَبْتُ عَلَيْهِ، فَاللهُ أَعْلَمُ أَصَبْنَا، أَمْ أَخْطَأْنَا
Translation
Chain of narrators
- ʿAbd al-Razzāq
- Maʿmar
- ʿAlī b. Zayd
- al-Ḥasan
- Qays b. ʿUbād
✧ We were with Ali, and whenever he witnessed a scene, or overlooked a hill, or descended into a valley, he said: 'Glory be to God; God and His Messenger have spoken the truth.' I said to a man from Banu Yashkur: 'Let us go to the Commander of the Believers so that we may ask him about his saying "God and His Messenger have spoken the truth."' He said: So we went to him and said: 'O Commander of the Believers, we saw that whenever you witnessed a scene, or descended into a valley, or overlooked a hill, you said: "God and His Messenger have spoken the truth." Did the Messenger of God entrust you with something in that regard?' He said: He turned away from us, and we persisted with him. When he saw that, he said: 'By God, the Messenger of God ﷺ did not entrust me with anything except what he entrusted to the people. But the people fell upon Uthman and killed him, and others were in a worse state and action regarding it than I. Then I thought that I was the most entitled of them to this matter, so I undertook it. God knows best whether we were right or wrong.'
Grades by grader
| Zubair Ali Zai | Weak | hadithunlocked |
|---|---|---|
| Darussalam | Da'if (Darussalam) because of the weakness of Ali bin Zaid bin Judan | sunnah.com |
What scholars said about it
In their own words, as Hadith Unlocked records them. They are shown, not summarised into a grade.
- Abū al-Ḥasan Nur al-Dīn ʿAlī b. Abi Bakr al-Haythamī
رجاله رجال الصحيح غير علي بن زيد وهو سيئ الحفظ وقد يحسن حديثه
in مسند أحمد, p. 1214
Narrators
- One of the ten (promised Paradise)d. 40 AHعَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍأحد العشرةصريح في السماع
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. after 80 AHقَيْسِ بْنِ عُبَادٍثقةعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a jurist (faqīh), virtuous and well known; he would often narrate with omission of the Companion (irsāl) and practiced concealment (tadlīs)d. 110 AHالْحَسَنِثقة فقيه ، فاضل مشهور ، وكان يرسل كثيرا ويدلسعن
- weak (ḍaʿīf)d. 127 AH, or 129 AH, or 131 AHعَلِيِّ بْنِ زَيْدٍضعيفعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), reliable (thabt), excellent, except that there is some weakness in his narration from Thābit, al-Aʿmash, ʿĀṣim b. Abī al-Najūd and Hishām b. ʿUrwah, and likewise in what he narrated in Basrad. at the beginning of 150 AH, or: 152 AH, or: 153 AH, or: 154 AH, 155 AHمَعْمَرٌثقة ثبت فاضل ، إلا أن في روايته عن ثابت والأعمش وعاصم بن أبي النجود ، وهشام بن عروة شيئا ، وكذا فيما حدث به بالبصرةأخبرنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a renowned author (muṣannif); he went blind at the end of his life and his memory changed (taghayyara), and he had Shiite leanings (kāna yatashayyaʿ)d. 211 AHعَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِثقة حافظ مصنف شهير ، عمي في آخر عمره فتغير ، وكان يتشيعحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.