Sunan Abi Dawud 5181
How many times should one say salam when seeking permission to enter
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حَدَّثَنَا مُسَدَّدٌ حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ دَاوُدَ عَنْ طَلْحَةَ بْنِ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَبِي بُرْدَةَ عَنْ أَبِي مُوسَى
أَنَّهُ أَتَى عُمَرَ فَاسْتَأْذَنَ ثَلاَثًا فَقَالَ يَسْتَأْذِنُ أَبُو مُوسَى يَسْتَأْذِنُ الأَشْعَرِيُّ يَسْتَأْذِنُ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ قَيْسٍ فَلَمْ يُؤْذَنْ لَهُ فَرَجَعَ فَبَعَثَ إِلَيْهِ عُمَرُ مَا رَدَّكَ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ﷺ يَسْتَأْذِنُ أَحَدُكُمْ ثَلاَثًا فَإِنْ أُذِنَ لَهُ وَإِلاَّ فَلْيَرْجِعْ قَالَ ائْتِنِي بِبَيِّنَةٍ عَلَى هَذَا فَذَهَبَ ثُمَّ رَجَعَ فَقَالَ هَذَا أُبَىٌّ فَقَالَ أُبَىٌّ يَا عُمَرُ لاَ تَكُنْ عَذَابًا عَلَى أَصْحَابِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ فَقَالَ عُمَرُ لاَ أَكُونُ عَذَابًا عَلَى أَصْحَابِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ﷺ
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Musaddad
- ʿAbdullāh b. Dāwud
- Ṭalḥah b. Yaḥyá
- Abū Burdah
- Abū Mūsá
Abu Musa asks permission, al-Ash’ari ask permission, and ‘Abd Allah b. Qais asks permission, but it was not granted to him. So he went away and ‘umar sent for him saying: what did you return? He replied: The Messenger of Allah (May peace be upon him) said: When one of you asks permission three times and it is not granted to him, he should go away. He said: Establish the proof of it. He went, came back, and said; This is Ubayy. Ubayy said: ‘Umar, do not be an agony for the Companions of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him). ‘Umar said: I shall not be an agony for the Companions of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ.
Notes
قَالَ ائْتِنِي بِبَيِّنَةٍ عَلَى هَذَا. فَذَهَبَ ثُمَّ رَجَعَ فَقَالَ هَذَا أُبَىٌّ فَقَالَ أُبَىٌّ يَا عُمَرُ لاَ تَكُنْ عَذَابًا عَلَى أَصْحَابِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم. فَقَالَ عُمَرُ لاَ أَكُونُ عَذَابًا عَلَى أَصْحَابِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم
machine translationHe said: "Bring me proof of this." So he went, then returned and said: "This is Ubayy." Ubayy said: "O ʿUmar, do not be a punishment upon the Companions of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ." ʿUmar said: "I will not be a punishment upon the Companions of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ."
Grades by grader
| al-Albani | Good Chainin صحيح أبي داود, p. 5181 | fawazahmed0, hadithunlocked, sunnah.com |
|---|---|---|
| Muhammad Muhyi al-Din Abd al-Hamid | Hasan Isnaad | fawazahmed0 |
| Zubair Ali Zai | Sahih Muslim (2154) | fawazahmed0 |
What scholars said about it
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- Ibn Ḥajar al-ʿAsqalānī
وفي رواية لمسلم من طريق طلحة بن يحيى عن أبي بردة في هذه القصة فقال عمر إن وجد بينة تجدوه عند المنبر عشية وإن لم يجد بينة فلن تجدوه فلما أن جاء بالعشي وجده قال يا أبا موسى ما تقول أقد وجدت قال نعم أبي بن كعب قال عدل قال يا أبا الطفيل وفي لفظ له يا أبا المنذر ما يقول هذا قال سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول ذلك يا ابن الخطاب فلا تكون عذابا على أصحاب رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال سبحان الله أنا سمعت شيئا فأحببت أن أثبت هكذا وقع في هذه الطريق وطلحة بن يحيى فيه ضعف ورواية الأكثر أولى أن تكون محفوظة
machine translationIn a narration of Muslim, from the route of Ṭalḥah b. Yaḥyā, from Abū Burdah, in this same story: ʿUmar said: "If he finds proof, you will find him at the minbar in the evening, and if he does not find proof, you will not find him." When he came in the evening, he found him and said: "O Abū Mūsā, what do you say? Have you found it?" He said: "Yes, Ubayy b. Kaʿb." He said: "A just man." He said: "O Abū al-Ṭufayl" – and in another wording of his: "O Abū al-Mundhir – what is this man saying?" He said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah ﷺ say that, O Ibn al-Khaṭṭāb, so do not be a punishment upon the Companions of the Messenger of Allah ﷺ." He said: "Glory be to Allah! I only heard something and wished to verify it." It occurred in this way in this route, but Ṭalḥah b. Yaḥyā has weakness (ḍaʿf) in him, and the narration of the majority is more likely to be the preserved (maḥfūẓ) one.
in سنن أبي داود, p. 5166
Other narrations of this report
Musnad Ahmad 12406al-Mu'jam al-Kabir (al-Tabarani) 14004al-Mu'jam al-Kabir (al-Tabarani) 17654al-Mu'jam al-Kabir (al-Tabarani) 5571Musannaf 'Abd al-Razzaq 19502al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 14789al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 14790al-Sunan al-Kubra (al-Bayhaqi) 8233
Narrators
- a well-known Companiond. 42 AH, or 44 AH, or 50 AH, or 52 AH, or 53 AH, also said 49 AH, also said 51 AHأَبُو مُوسَى الْأَشْعَرِيُّصحابي مشهورعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 103 AH, or: 104 AH, or: 107 AHأَبِي بُرْدَةَثقةعن
- truthful (ṣadūq), makes mistakes (yukhṭiʾ)d. 146 AH, or 147 AH, or: 148 AH, said by Ibn Ḥibbānطَلْحَةَ بْنِ يَحْيَىصدوق يخطئعن
- trustworthy (thiqah), devout (ʿābid)d. 211 AH, or 212 AH, Ibn Saʿd said: 213 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ دَاوُدَثقة عابدنا
- trustworthy, a memorizer (thiqah ḥāfiẓ)d. 228 AHمُسَدَّدٌثقة حافظحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), the compiler of the Sunan and other works, one of the senior scholars.d. 275 AHأَبُو دَاوُدَ السِّجِسْتَانِيُّثقة ، حافظ , مصنف السنن وغيرها ، من كبار العلماء
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
Latin names and English verdicts with a dotted underline are machine translations, not reviewed.
Commentaries
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