Musnad Ahmad 4849

Translation

✧ I was standing praying toward the House, and an old man was beside me. I prolonged the prayer, so I put my hands on my waist. The old man struck my chest with his hand, a blow that he did not spare. I said to myself: What did he find objectionable about me? So I hastened to finish, and there was a boy sitting behind him. I said: Who is this old man? He said: This is Abdullah b. Umar. I sat until he finished, then I said: O Abu Abd al-Rahman, what did you find objectionable about me? He said: Is it you? I said: Yes. He said: That was the "salib" in prayer, and the Messenger of Allah ﷺ used to forbid it.

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• Dāraquṭnī

  في إسناده سعيد بن زياد الشيباني لا يحتج به ولكن يعتبر به

  in مسند أحمد, p. 4914

Narrators

1. 1
   ʿAbdullāh b. ʿUmar b. al-Khaṭṭāb

   One of the Companions who narrated most often, and one of the ʿAbādilah; he was among the people most strict in following the narrations (athar).d. 72 AH, or 73 AH, or 74 AH, also said: 75 AH
   عَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ عُمَرَ بْنِ الْخَطَّابِأحد المكثرين من الصحابة والعبادلة ، وكان من أشد الناس اتباعا للأثر
   في حكم السماع
2. 2
   Ziyād b. Ṣubayḥ al-Ḥanafī

   trustworthy (thiqah)d. between 91 and 100 AH
   زِيَادُ بْنُ صُبَيْحٍ الْحَنَفِيُّثقة
   حدثنا
3. 3
   Saʿīd b. Ziyād

   acceptable (maqbūl)
   سَعِيدُ بْنُ زِيَادٍ الشَّيْبَانِيُّمقبول
   أخبرنا
4. 4
   Yazīd b. Hārūn

   Trustworthy (thiqah), meticulous (mutqin), devout (ʿābid).d. 206 AH.
   يَزِيدُثقة متقن عابد .
   حدثنا
5. 5
   Aḥmad b. Ḥanbal

   Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his view
   أحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة

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