Musnad Ahmad 4417
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حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍ حَدَّثَنَا شُعْبَةُ عَنْ عَاصِمٍ ابْنِ بَهْدَلَةَ عَنْ أَبِي وَائِلٍ يُحَدِّثُ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللهِ قَالَ
كُنَّا نَتَكَلَّمُ فِي الصَّلَاةِ، فَأَتَيْتُ رَسُولَ اللهِ ﷺ فَسَلَّمْتُ عَلَيْهِ فَلَمْ يَرُدَّ عَلَيَّ. فَأَخَذَنِي مَا قَدُمَ وَمَا حَدُثَ، فَقَالَ رَسُولُ اللهِ ﷺ: إِنَّ اللهَ يُحْدِثُ لِنَبِيِّهِ مَا شَاءَ قَالَ شُعْبَةُ: وَأَحْسَبُهُ قَدْ قَالَ: مِمَّا شَاءَ، وَإِنَّ مِمَّا أَحْدَثَ لِنَبِيِّهِ ﷺ أَنْ لَا تَكَلَّمُوا فِي الصَّلَاةِ.
Translation
Chain of narrators
- Muḥammad b. Jaʿfar
- Shuʿbah
- ʿĀṣim Ibn Bahdalah
- Abū Wāʾil Yuḥaddith
- ʿAbdullāh
✧ We were talking during the prayer, so I approached the Messenger of Allah ﷺ and greeted him, but he did not respond to me. He took hold of what had happened and what was said and the Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, "Indeed, Allah speaks to His Prophet according to His will." Shu'bah said, "I believe he said from what He wills," and indeed, from what was revealed to His Prophet ﷺ is that you should not speak during the prayer.
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What scholars said about it
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- Sufyān b. ʿUyaynah
هذا أجود ما وجدنا عند عاصم في هذا الوجه
machine translationThis is the best that we have found from ʿĀṣim on this line of transmission.
in مسند أحمد, p. 4483 - Abū ʿAbdullāh al-Ḥākim
رواه جماعة من الأئمة عن عاصم بن أبي النجود وتداوله الفقهاء إلا أن صاحبي الصحيح يتوقيان رواية عاصم لسوء حفظه فأخرجاه من طريق آخر ببعض معناه
machine translationA group of the imams narrated it from ʿĀṣim b. Abī al-Najūd, and the jurists have circulated it. However, the two authors of the Ṣaḥīḥ avoid narrations of ʿĀṣim because of his poor memory (sūʾ ḥifẓ), so they recorded it by another route with some of its meaning.
in مسند أحمد, p. 4483
Narrators
- One of the earliest and foremost (al-sābiqūn al-awwalūn), and one of the leading scholars among the Companions; his virtues are manyd. 28 AH, or 32 AH, 33 AHعَبْدُ اللهِ بْنُ مَسْعُودٍمن السابقين الأولين ، ومن كبار العلماء من الصحابة ، مناقبه جمةيحدث عن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. Khalīfah b. Khayyāṭ said: 82 AH, Ibn Mandah said: 99 AHأَبِي وَائِلٍثقةعن
- Truthful (ṣadūq) with some errors (awhām)d. 127 AH, or: 128 AHعَاصِمِ بْنِ بَهْدَلَةَصدوق له أوهامعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), meticulous (mutqin)d. 160 AHشُعْبَةُثقة حافظ , متقنحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), his book was sound (ṣaḥīḥ al-kitāb), except that he had some heedlessness (ghaflah)d. 192 AH or 193 AH or 194 AHمُحَمَّدُ بْنُ جَعْفَرٍثقة صحيح الكتاب إلا أن فيه غفلةحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
Who each narrator was and how reliable, from hdith.com
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