Musnad Ahmad 18843
✧ Wael bin Hajar
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حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِ قَالَ وَقَالَ شُعْبَةُ
وَخَفَضَ بِهَا صَوْتَهُ
Translation
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- ʿAbd al-Raḥman
- Shuʿbah
✧ and he lowered his voice with it
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- Mubarakpūri
ليس فيه اضطراب بل هى رواية راجحة ردا على الأحناف
machine translationThere is no inconsistency (iḍṭirāb) in it; rather it is the preponderant report, in reply to the Ḥanafīs.
in مسند أحمد, p. 19079 - Dāraquṭnī
صحح حديثه
machine translationHe declared his hadith authentic (ṣaḥḥaḥa).
in مسند أحمد, p. 19079 - al-Bukhari
أن شعبة وهم في قوله خفض صوته وإنما هو مد صوته حديث سفيان أصح من حديث شعبة في هذا وأخطأ شعبة في مواضع من هذا الحديث فقال
machine translationShuʿbah erred in saying "he lowered his voice"; it is rather "he extended his voice". The ḥadīth of Sufyān is more authentic than the ḥadīth of Shuʿbah in this matter, and Shuʿbah made mistakes in several places in this ḥadīth, so he said:
in مسند أحمد, p. 19079 - أبو زرعة الرازي
حديث سفيان في هذا أصح أي من حديث شعبة
machine translationThe ḥadīth of Sufyān in this matter is more authentic, that is, than the ḥadīth of Shuʿbah.
in مسند أحمد, p. 19079
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- ابن عبد الهادي الحنبلي
طعن في حديث شعبة هذا بأنه قد روى عنه خلافه
machine translationHe criticized this ḥadīth of Shuʿbah on the grounds that the opposite has been narrated from him.
in مسند أحمد, p. 19079 - Abū Bakr Aḥmad b. al-Ḥusayn al-Bayhaqī
أجمع الحفاظ على أن شعبة أخطأ
machine translationThe ḥadīth masters (ḥuffāẓ) agreed that Shuʿbah made a mistake.
in مسند أحمد, p. 19079 - al-Bukhari
حديث سفيان أصح من حديث شعبة وأخطأ شعبة في مواضع فقال حجر أبي العنبس وإنما هو حجر بن العنبس ويكنى أبا السكن وزاد فيه علقمة وإنما هو حجر عن أبي وائل وقال خفض بها صوته وإنما هو مد بها صوته
machine translationThe hadith of Sufyān is more authentic than the hadith of Shuʿbah. Shuʿbah made mistakes in several places. He said "Ḥujr Abū al-ʿAnbas", but it is only Ḥujr b. al-ʿAnbas, whose kunyah is Abū al-Sakan. He added ʿAlqamah, but it is only Ḥujr from Abū Wāʾil. And he said "he lowered his voice with it", but it is only "he extended his voice with it".
in مسند أحمد, p. 19079 - Badr al-Dīn al-ʿAynī
تخطئة مثل شعبة خطأ وكيف وهو أمير المؤمنين في الحديث وقوله هو حجر بن العنبس وليس بأبي العنبس ليس كما قاله بل هو أبو العنبس حجر بن العنبس وجزم به ابن حبان في الثقات فقال كنيته كاسم أبيه وقول محمد يكنى أبا السكن لا ينافي أن تكون كنيته أيضا أبا العنبس لأنه لا مانع أن يكون لشخص كنيتان وقوله وزاد فيه علقمة لا يضر لأن الزيادة من الثقة مقبولة ولا سيما من مثل شعبة وقوله وقال وخفض بها صوته وإنما هو ومد بها صوته
machine translationTo declare a man like Shuʿbah mistaken is itself a mistake, and how could it not be, when he is the Commander of the Believers in ḥadīth. His statement that he is Ḥujr b. al-ʿAnbas and not Abū l-ʿAnbas is not as he said; rather he is Abū l-ʿAnbas Ḥujr b. al-ʿAnbas, and Ibn Ḥibbān asserted this in al-Thiqāt, saying: his kunyah is the same as his father's name. And the statement of Muḥammad that he is called Abū l-Sakan does not contradict his also having the kunyah Abū l-ʿAnbas, since nothing prevents a person from having two kunyahs. As for his statement that he added ʿAlqamah in it, this does no harm, because an addition from a trustworthy (thiqah) narrator is accepted, especially from one like Shuʿbah. And his statement that he said "and he lowered his voice with it", whereas it is rather "and he extended his voice with it".
in مسند أحمد, p. 19079 - Dāraquṭnī
هذا عندي خطأ إنما هو حجر بن عنبس عن وائل وهذا من ابن أبي ليلى فإنه كان سيئ الحفظ
machine translationIn my view this is a mistake. It is only Ḥujr b. ʿAnbas, from Wāʾil. This comes from Ibn Abī Laylā, for he was poor in memorization (sayyiʾ al-ḥifẓ).
in مسند أحمد, p. 19079
Other narrations of this report
Narrators
- Eminent Companion (ṣaḥābī jalīl)d. 44 AHوَائِلُ بْنُ حُجْرِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ الْحَضْرَمِيُّصحابي جليلعن
- truthful (ṣadūq)d. between 81 and 90 AHحجر بن العنبس الحضرميصدوقعن
- trustworthy (thiqah)d. 121 AH, or 122 AH, or 123 AHسلمة بن كهيل الحضرميثقةعن
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a retentive memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), meticulous (mutqin)d. 160 AHشُعْبَةُثقة حافظ , متقنقال
- Trustworthy (thiqah), firmly reliable (thabt), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), knowledgeable of the narrators and of ḥadīthd. 198 AHعَبْدُ الرَّحْمَنِثقة ثبت حافظ ، عارف بالرجال والحديثحدثنا
- Trustworthy (thiqah), a memorizer (ḥāfiẓ), a jurist (faqīh), an authority (ḥujjah).d. 241 AH, Abū Umayyah Muḥammad b. Ibrāhīm al-Ṭarsūsī said: 242 AH, and no one followed him in his viewأحمد بن حنبلثقة حافظ فقيه حجة
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